I guess the garage caught my attention. Hey, I get the one time offers to see if people bite. If what you all say is true about flys then, obviously no one needs that.

No intention of comparing you to anyone, or complaining. We've actually only exchanged that one PM. I probably shouldn't even have brought it up in this thread. No offense.

My best no morales story is he stole my ideas the creation of 75 and 86. I presented the ideas publicly and he bashed me heavily both times only to go ahead and help "create" them only a few weeks later.

The best part is that under power bestowed by himself he would fill his own division with weaker owners (no offense guys....I know i am not the best either) in order to have 4-6 easier games so he could have a better record. And cause I do not verbally abuse him .....just out wit him with truth.....he continued to fill my division with stronger owners. No list no rhyme no reason except that I would have a tougher time to win games.

Then he went even further to lobby day and night for his brother to become commissioner in order to "help" install rules to boot people from the league. He put everything in his favor in order for that not to happen to him and happen to me by controlling who went in to who's division . So weak and he should be kicked out for that alone.

The best part is that I don't even care about winning and will release all my teams when I feel the game has no future. Not from some made up rule after the league was made by some appointed vote.


During this whole time he trolled me in every league and every time I beat him he had some garbage excuse that only led to the loss being a fluke . He went as far as saying he never missed playoffs in 50 seasons. A complete lie.

Then one league I think it was 9 I won a championship without ever logging in and in 75 I posted all the verbal abuse and lies he sent to me in pms......all before the code of conduct policy was set in to motion and that is when It all slowly begin to stop .

I spent more time defending my self and exposing this cheater. Not playing this game. All he did is move on to prey on another. No one should have to go through that while playing an online game. NEVER!

Also, any one who is familiar with deep route , another once decent game, he was accused and admitted to being a multi or trading unfairly while using vulgar language .....same garbage by the same guy year after year for over five real years. He used his brother as a scape goat in that game too. Luckily his brother has separated himself from this stuff but blood is thicker than water. If you know what i mean. I don't trust either of them, but I respect his brother alot more.

I have never met anyone so dead set at winning at all costs . He will use any leverage and anyone as a piece of meat to verbally beat up on order to gain leverage to win. Not that there is anything wrong with that but real nfl players coaches and owners that try to fleece the game get punished harshly in order for the abuse to stop . He might have got a slap on the hand by both game makers.

Also, Anyone who defends him is on my mfn beat down list. The best part is I don't even care if I win.....I just want to gloat and rub it so hard in thier face when/ if I beat these guys.

Either way I completely agree with this post and fully support and punishment handed down by jdb or any other game maker. He is well deserving and it is about time, but I don't even know if that will stop it.

He is to dedicated to winning, and in a game where 95% of the people care more about real life these guys will always be the minority . Somebody has to root for the underdog .....right ?

I will always root for the humble and honest under dog.....not the pompous and vulgar winner. Good luck!

Complete BS, i don't know where you got that garbage but it's not true at all. You can't put teams in any specific division in a private league. We invited people to the league and they chose the team they wanted. Go ask any of the original owners and they will tell you that the league got filled based on their choice. A lot picked by draft pick, some picked by head coach and others picked by the owners in the division. Do i think everything Flys has done is ok, no, but to just make up stuff is lame.

@Bryson10

i think what Raymattison21 meant to say is that people i think pick teams in divisions that they think they can beat.

meaning i think those stronger ones thought they could beat Ray with no problem.

though i say i think the reason blackflys might have weaker division opponents is he probably conned those people into thinking they could beat him or maybe said if you play in my division in league 75 i will trade with you in another league you are in (he has shown this behavior regardless if he wants to admit to it or not)


@raymattison21

basically with all what you said in your message in blackflys about giving himself so much power is the MAIN Reason i am totally against people being commissioners regardless of the league and will always be

WHY???

Simply Power Corrupts .

Also really i think the best commissioners are going to be the ones that have no contention or contentions with anyone here.

i mean if really if JDB wants commissioners or even people making decisions in his leagues his best bet is to pick people who dont play the game .

And really it would be in his best interest to have those people Not be able to play the game but only be on the site as a commissioner of the league or to help in the affairs that go on around here.


And reason those people would work best is because they wouldnt have any connections to anyone here , they dont play the game , they have nothing to gain to with their sentences they hand out , etc.

Then that is what he SHOULD have said.

Because what he ACTUALLY said is Blackflys manually put Good Teams in Ray's Division and Bad Teams into Blackfly's Division... which isn't even possible in the current set up.

He wasn't even remotely close to saying what you suggest he was aiming for.

For instance, I chose the Team that I picked (and I did pick it) so that I would be in AuthorCCurrier's Division, as we have a friendly Rivalry.

Ray PICKED his Division... Blackflys didn't put him there. Every Owner PICKED where they went, and Blackflys had no direct ability to control that. Does he somehow think that he was the only person that got to Select his Team... and everyone else was populated in by Blackflys? What a crock.

Seriously, when such egregious falsehoods (I'll stop short of calling it an outright lie) are represented, it makes it very hard for me to believe anything else that Poster says.

He picked them for me( one with the worst coaches for code 4.0) and I had no objection cause I joined the league for a first hand look at the various codes and how they hold up vs. Elite owners . ....



By raymattison21
8/25/2016 12:19 pm
blackflys wrote:
Your Columbus
https://private75.myfootballnow.com
Don't give out the site to anyone


Thank you


The problem I have is how the next owners added to the divisions came about as some others had dropped out.

Brexel how about you look up drogers records in 75 and other leagues. He also added gridiron fan to my division as well. Both are very good.

And In his own division he added some lesser opponents (no offense please guys cause your attitudes are fantastic but brexel needs to be proven wrong here and is forcing more drama) as others dropped out.

There was no level of equal or fair distribution just some egotistical game fanatic choosing who plays where in what ever division he wants so he can have a better record . VERY UNFAIR in my opinion especially when some elimination from the league was added AFTER its inception . All original owners should be grandfathered in based on the same rules that were there when they joined. That's fair!

Flys even made up a rule that I could not join 86 unless I dropped my 75 team. Another league that was my idea....then he continued to mock/bribe me in pms asking me if I wanted to be the comish of 86. All pure nonsense .

Non of this should be allowed as ONLY jdb has stated that private leagues , that a user pays for , are allowed to have rules made up by them. I guess 75 and 86 are beta private leagues, cause once again I could care less about the abuse I have to " handle" and am defending the original poster warNing to newbies.

I can't wait for an opening in one of your leagues brexel . ...keep me posted as one opens up, but not 73 I got a team there yesterday . ...just not in your division , cause none were open, but that's the best I could get.

I can tell that you're sincere in the aspect of not meaning to compare. It was how it was coming across to me and I'm sure others here can see where I was coming from. All in all, no hard feelings Mcarovil.

I'm going to start locking these threads that are one player attacking another, or accusing of cheating. If you have reason to believe a player is cheating, you can contact me directly.

Hint: most of the time there is no cheating involved. But I will investigate every report (even though I may not get back to you).

This place is about having fun. We've got some very competitive guys here, and I love that about you all. But let's continue to maintain an attitude of good sportsmanship.