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Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By Brrexkl
8/11/2016 5:13 pm
Boomtower wrote:
I favor a laissez faire approach when it comes to trades. Ultimately, no matter what the trade bar says, if the team owners are happy, that's what matters. If someone feels like a trade is unfair, don't make the trade.


Lazy Fair?

We don't speak Franch!

(j/k)

Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By GrandadB
8/12/2016 1:33 am
Boomtower wrote:
I favor a laissez faire approach when it comes to trades. Ultimately, no matter what the trade bar says, if the team owners are happy, that's what matters. If someone feels like a trade is unfair, don't make the trade.


that would work if it wasnt for several ways to take major advantage of it, like having someone sign up and take a team strictly for trade advantage purpose, or multi's. In some cases there may be only one team owner really involved.

Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By lellow2011
8/12/2016 2:00 am
GrandadB wrote:
Boomtower wrote:
I favor a laissez faire approach when it comes to trades. Ultimately, no matter what the trade bar says, if the team owners are happy, that's what matters. If someone feels like a trade is unfair, don't make the trade.


that would work if it wasnt for several ways to take major advantage of it, like having someone sign up and take a team strictly for trade advantage purpose, or multi's. In some cases there may be only one team owner really involved.



Users that have the same IP cannot trade, so if they are doing that then they have to find some way around the IP issue.

Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By dei1c3
8/12/2016 12:33 pm
lellow2011 wrote:
GrandadB wrote:
Boomtower wrote:
I favor a laissez faire approach when it comes to trades. Ultimately, no matter what the trade bar says, if the team owners are happy, that's what matters. If someone feels like a trade is unfair, don't make the trade.


that would work if it wasnt for several ways to take major advantage of it, like having someone sign up and take a team strictly for trade advantage purpose, or multi's. In some cases there may be only one team owner really involved.



Users that have the same IP cannot trade, so if they are doing that then they have to find some way around the IP issue.

Making your web requests come from a different IP address is beyond simple.

Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By lellow2011
8/12/2016 1:37 pm
dei1c3 wrote:
lellow2011 wrote:
GrandadB wrote:
Boomtower wrote:
I favor a laissez faire approach when it comes to trades. Ultimately, no matter what the trade bar says, if the team owners are happy, that's what matters. If someone feels like a trade is unfair, don't make the trade.


that would work if it wasnt for several ways to take major advantage of it, like having someone sign up and take a team strictly for trade advantage purpose, or multi's. In some cases there may be only one team owner really involved.



Users that have the same IP cannot trade, so if they are doing that then they have to find some way around the IP issue.

Making your web requests come from a different IP address is beyond simple.


I never claimed that it wasn't simple, simply that they would have to knowingly make the effort to get around using the same IP for different users.

Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By King of Bling
8/12/2016 3:03 pm
GrandadB wrote:

that would work if it wasnt for several ways to take major advantage of it, like having someone sign up and take a team strictly for trade advantage purpose, or multi's. In some cases there may be only one team owner really involved.


What kind of people do you hang out with? You always assume the worst...

Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By parsh
8/12/2016 4:31 pm
King of Bling wrote:
GrandadB wrote:

that would work if it wasnt for several ways to take major advantage of it, like having someone sign up and take a team strictly for trade advantage purpose, or multi's. In some cases there may be only one team owner really involved.


What kind of people do you hang out with? You always assume the worst...


History shows on this sim that it does happen so it's not an illogical assumption.

Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By GrandadB
8/12/2016 11:06 pm
lellow2011 wrote:
GrandadB wrote:
Boomtower wrote:
I favor a laissez faire approach when it comes to trades. Ultimately, no matter what the trade bar says, if the team owners are happy, that's what matters. If someone feels like a trade is unfair, don't make the trade.


that would work if it wasnt for several ways to take major advantage of it, like having someone sign up and take a team strictly for trade advantage purpose, or multi's. In some cases there may be only one team owner really involved.


Thats right, cant use the same IP, so what would they do to get around that? Simple, different IP's, no big deal.

Here is an example that screams of cheating. Ive mentioned the similartiy between owners names that end with four numbers. I just joined Custom 17 and am undertaking a rebuild of one of the worst,if not the worst teams in the MFN realm, Denver. I was told the previous owner "tanked" the team and dumped top players to FA. Anyway, am looking to make trades when I become eligible to do so, on Aug 20th. In the meantime Ive been looking at the other teams in the league for trade potential. One of the teams, New England, did not make a lot of sense to me and then when I looked at their history, it made a lot of sense. Division Champs in 2020 season, dropped by the owner jsid, then picked up by Ky3217 who promptly traded away top players then had a 5-11 season in 2021 with zero trades/transactions since. I was about to send "Ky" a message, but then decided not to because I am concerned that there is no "Ky" and is actually a mutliple account of one owner using a different IP. How would one go about verifying something like that? What if the IPs were located at same address or area? Or, what if someone had a relative or friend who lives in another area or wherever, had them sign up to enable the control of that team for trade purposes.

I hope this is not what is going on, but I dont see a rational explanation for it. Yeah, you could say it was an inexperienced owner taking over a good team and did not know what to do. But, I dont think so, and again, there is the four numbers at the end of the owner name, like jl1980. Has anyone seen any posts or messages from these players? The owner who controls them could do so, but I doubt they would go to that length and trouble to cover their tracks.


Users that have the same IP cannot trade, so if they are doing that then they have to find some way around the IP issue.

Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By GrandadB
8/12/2016 11:11 pm
King of Bling wrote:
GrandadB wrote:

that would work if it wasnt for several ways to take major advantage of it, like having someone sign up and take a team strictly for trade advantage purpose, or multi's. In some cases there may be only one team owner really involved.


What kind of people do you hang out with? You always assume the worst...


Yeah Bling, Im not the only one as you are aware. Im not assuming the worst at this point, I am sure cheating is going on with the use of accounts set up to do so. Sorry, but its rampant and it stinks.

Re: Trying to solve the trade dilemma

By GrandadB
8/12/2016 11:21 pm
I had my grandson sign up a few days ago, same house different IP addresses. Trying to get him interested in football and playing this game. His owner name is grimreaper. I could of used his account if I wanted to, but absolutely wont. I could have had him take a high ranking team in one of the two leagues Im in that had been abandoned, then raked the team for players that I wanted with draft picks and lower rated players to appease the trade meter. Thats one way how its done.
I could also call a friend and have him sign up and use my suggested owner name, like Tm1492, give me his password, and "Voila" , I now have a team totally at my disposal for trades and transactions. And that is how it has been done, several times over in MFN.