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Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
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Beercloud
Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
by Beercloud @ 12/17/2018 5:29 pm
Carolina Panthers sends:
Tony Sawyer (CB)

Kansas City Chiefs sends:
1979 Round 1 (Kansas City Chiefs)
1980 Round 1 (Kansas City Chiefs)
1980 Round 2 (Kansas City Chiefs)


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jgcruz
Re: Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
by jgcruz @ 12/17/2018 5:46 pm
Bit of a gamble by the Chiefs to pull off this trade prior to training camp. Although even if the SLB/CB busts, he'll still probably rate overall in the 80s.

Good trade for Carolina if it can sign all of its umpteen draft choices in the next few seasons.
Last edited 12/17/2018 10:49 pm
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Beercloud
Re: Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
by Beercloud @ 12/18/2018 9:34 am
ooooh ya. Goota love it. This trade will be forever known as "The Gamble".

Will the highly touted prospect be the productive juggernaught as expect or another Ryan Leaf. Stay tuned on this one.
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awest827
Re: Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
by awest827 @ 12/19/2018 6:20 pm
Lol 2 1st rounders and a 2nd for -24. I don't get why anyone would do this trade before training camp. The guy has high volatility and you trade your future for him. The guy is rated 71 and jouameng got this haul for him. Yet another steal by Carolina.
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jgcruz
Re: Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
by jgcruz @ 12/19/2018 6:51 pm
Yes, it was a gamble and a tough break to the Chiefs. It's not often a player bust by that huge of a margin.

Carolina benefitted in the short term, but doesn't have a lot of leverage getting rid of some of their upcoming draft choices. Sure, some GMs will be enticed by the candy in the window and essentially overpay under the circumstances for Carolina's draft choices (especially those who mistakenly think they are close to the holy grail of a championship).

The fact is Carolina has 24 draft picks (16 of which requires bonuses) in the next to two drafts, only 7 expiring contracts during that time, and is now and will then be over the cap before and after the drafts. Carolina will have to get rid of a good number of those draft choices (if not all) or cut some of its high priced talent due to salary cap constraints over this and next season. It can't keep both. That's the leverage Carolina loses in negotiations with a savvy GM. Nevertheless, some GM will inevitably give away his draft choices in a fete of self delusion, overlook Carolina's urgent need to rid itself of these draft choices and bail it out. Word to the wise (and newbies).
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OffensiveTaco
Re: Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
by OffensiveTaco @ 12/19/2018 7:11 pm
jgcruz wrote:
Yes, it was a gamble and a tough break to the Chiefs. It's not often a player bust by that huge of a margin.

Carolina benefitted in the short term, but doesn't have a lot of leverage getting rid of some of their upcoming draft choices. Sure, some GMs will be enticed by the candy in the window and essentially overpay under the circumstances for Carolina's draft choices (especially those who mistakenly think they are close to the holy grail of a championship).

The fact is Carolina has 24 draft picks (16 of which requires bonuses) in the next to two drafts, only 7 expiring contracts during that time, and is now and will then be over the cap before and after the drafts. Carolina will have to get rid of a good number of those draft choices (if not all) or cut some of its high priced talent due to salary cap constraints over this and next season. It can't keep both. That's the leverage Carolina loses in negotiations with a savvy GM. Nevertheless, some GM will inevitably give away his draft choices in a fete of self delusion, overlook Carolina's urgent need to rid itself of these draft choices and bail it out. Word to the wise (and newbies).
I love reading your analysis jgcruz
you’re awesome
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jgcruz
Re: Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
by jgcruz @ 12/19/2018 7:41 pm
Thanks for the compliment, OT.

Congrats on your draft, you had a good one. At least 4 players should make your roster; Rivera could eventually make All-Pro and together with G Allen, make your weakside unstoppable.
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Beercloud
Re: Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
by Beercloud @ 12/20/2018 3:51 pm
ya that was a huge bust @ -24. That is crazy bad luck. He's been moved to LB and that could help him.

And i also cant get enough of jgcruz's reviews. Between jgcruz, GrandadB and awest827 we could have our own football network worth listening to.
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OffensiveTaco
Re: Completed Trade: Carolina Panthers and Kansas City Chiefs
by OffensiveTaco @ 12/20/2018 8:55 pm
Exclusive Paydirt Sports Network (EPSN)
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