If someone is going to leave his team bc Jouameng has too many 1st rd picks I don't know what to tell you... c'mon lol.

I didn't mean to open this can of worms, but I imagine it has something to do with how the Vol works. Having all those 1st's guarantees he can draft all the home run picks. Now any team genuinely struggling isn't going to have the boost of a guaranteed star to build around. The rich get richer lol

To add to that, this is how he can easily escape the cap in most years. It just so happens he already has the first 3 picks.. but normally he would be able to easily parlay/trade those 1st's into much higher 1st's etc. snatching up all the low Vol stars and staying under the cap.. I just assumed this was the strategy.

What's more likely to happen because I've seen players do similar things in other leagues is that a player with a number of early round picks will clear out all of the draftable players at a key position like DB. There is a limited number of them every year and if you can monopolize them, you can build a destructive defense while limiting your opponent's opportunity to build theirs.

the outcomes are endless and none are good. lol

Yeah drafting all the WR and RB is something that must be going on when I see "good gm's" with 5-6 starting caliber WR's

I think this really falls on the leagues GM's.

We have multiple rules in place to keep things as even as we can. They help to prevent collusion and tanking. We have the 2 trade rule which is per team and not by GM. Each team must have at least 1 first rounder showing on their future picks page at all times. And we have the Hire n Fire rule. All GM's are able to ask for a trade review by the competition committee. Although the CC is required to review the trades face value and not determine whether a team is accumulating too many picks or too many good players etc... That's the job of the trading partners themselves.

Now when I say this below Im not talking about all GM's banding together when they see another team accumulating picks or players. That is the full definition of collusion. That would be bad. Im talking about defensive trading by each team and on each trade offer.

As a competing GM you gotta know who your trading partner. Your whole objective is to be better than the other guy. If your giving a team that is already better than you a chance to be even better through a trade offer? It's sometimes better to just walk away. Especially........and I can't stress this enough.......Especially if its a trade within your own division. You want to make your team better but not at the expense of make the other trade partner better than you.

Jouameng has made these trades fair and square with the whole league having the same opportunity to build this way. That being said, I only see his name once in the Hall of Champions. I see awest827 three times. Should we adapt more rules to restrict how he builds his teams? I see Warthog up there twice and he's been to the Super Bowl 3 times. If you go through the Hall of Champions, we've had a pretty good balance of teams in it and having a shot at it. So what if one team has won a Super Bowl and has plenty of picks. Dont bring him down to your level, raise your level not only up to his but beyond his level. That's how you become a champion. Go beat him.

One last thing, when I originally set the league trade limit to 2 deals per each team when the league opened, the whole idea was to make GM's have to call around to more different trade partners to get what they want. I think that keeps more than just a handful of core GM's involved. The more peeps involved the more fun a league is. I think restricting teams more than that has the opportunity to restrict GM activity. GM's are really involved here which has made it a blast.

Now in the end it is up to you guys to change or add rules through the processes we have setup. I just wanted to add my views right or wrong.

This is in essence, my thoughts. I know I'm a newer, learning GM, but I'm out of this league if we try to put a stop to Jouameng's strategy. I respect it. He has a strategy and he sticks to it. He is not exploiting anything. All of his deals have been fair and someone was on the other side to click accept. You all have the same capabilities of adopting the same strategy as him. I would consider it if I was stronger with game planning and making the most of players that can fit a system, but I am not.

There are going to be those who only care about the results on their screen and some who care more about the overall experience for themselves and others. For me, if this was an isolated example it's not a big deal. I'm still new so I have no idea if this is an every year thing, but if it is that's not good for the perception of the game. I'd bet almost nobody would actually want to join a league if they already knew it had 1-3 gm's accumulating 15-20 first round picks etc.. I mean if others start doing this, wouldn't this be a logical conclusion? Are we going to encourage that kind of behavior?.. cause the way I see it a pat on the back is sorta encouraging it.

The way to discourage this tactic is to not reward it. The way to not reward it is to make sure the offending party has to solve his own dilemma. Again, there is no way Carolina benefits from all 8 1st rd picks unless other GMs deal for them. Otherwise, at least several of the picks hit the streets as essentially free agents. Which should help the overall balance of the league - particularly those teams with some cap space to spare.

BTW - This is my only league. If I didn’t have so much time invested in it, I would not hesitate to leave it. And I definitely would not join it under the present circumstances.

Personally, I look forward to beating Carolina in the coming seasons no matter how many draft picks the team accumulates. I hear what cruz is saying though.

You just read my thoughts .... i wish him to have 10+ 1st round picks every season from now on....the excitement of beating a great build like that is fenomenal ... i am for unlimited 1st round picks per team...