I put in a post in the bug box about this leagues horrible QB play:

https://paydirt.myfootballnow.com/community/6/5550?page=1&x=MrqywgMEgV#33360

I'm really baffled right on how to fix this. It's not just me, its our whole league.

oh, wow. I didn't realize it was a league-wide problem, I've been too involved with my own team's sorrows to be aware. I've been going bananas trying to figure out why my QB (and team) sucks so bad.

My QB could be the poster-child for this situation. He has 100's on all passing related attributes, at least average support (OL, WR's, and other offensive players) yet his season stats currently are: 59.2% completion, 4.89 yards/att, a 5:15 TD to INT ratio, and a QB rating of 55.62.

It is except with QB Clancy for Houston.
Salty_Watermelon just may have figured it out when the rest of us haven't yet. Stay tuned

So it's obviously not a bug. It's about game play.

it may not be a bug per se - but it isn't about game play.

If only 1 of 32 teams has a successful QB strategy - then the game play becomes trying to crack Salty's code and mimic it. Also, not to discredit Houston's gameplanning (because they are statistically in a stratosphere of their own) but the combined record of their opponents are 25-51.

This is true but other teams records don't seem to affect the TD-Int trend as much as one would expect. And they did just knock off Seattle.
Do you mean breaking down Salty_Watermelon's game film instead of code? He isn't coding anything. jdb does all that.

So my point is, that there is a trend with 0.4.5 and it appears that it might be in gameplay somewhere. Whether thats good for the game or bad is another story. I think if it were a bug, it wouldn't exclude one QB or one team. They would suffer the same bug problem as we all do.

One thing I mentioned over in the beta test league is that Houston has not won more than 5 games in it's history. 0.4.5 comes out and bam they're sitting 8-1. Im not one who believes much in coincidences. There is something there whether it's intended or not.

If you guys look around in other leagues stats you'll see that Clancy is not the only one to have realistic numbers. setherick had a QB with similar type numbers and he was a main cog with feedback for the games development. I dont think anyone in MFN has broken down more game film than setherick, raymattison21 and jdb himself. So i do believe it is in gameplay. Here is the link to setherick's QB. https://nfl.myfootballnow.com/player/4428 You'll find more when you look around.

I haven't had time to, but you can look at these QB's and see which plays they are each familiar with, successful with, what WR's they have and I think most importantly how good is their Oline on film.

Good stuff Beercloud. Yes, by "code" I meant Salty's strategy (playbook, plays, players, rules, etc.,.) Until Hellbringer mentioned it, I thought my team's struggles was a "me problem" but it appears everyone is struggling with QB play.

If a whole league is struggling, sans one team, then something is not right. I haven't looked around in other leagues to see if things look the same. I know in the teams I run, I don't have another team and QB that has such poor statistics as in this one - and this is easily my highest rated QB attribute-wise. It is confounding to say the least.

Agreed. Pinpointing what is going on will be the key. Since it doesn't look random. Other leagues I've looked at seem to be having the same pattern. 1 or 2 QB's look good and the rest are struggling. Since there is a pattern Im not on the whole doom n gloom trail. jdb has a better chance of locating the cause and effect and adapt as necessary. I imagine it takes a lil time to get the data needed.

Good topic.

I will add this, there have been many owners that had all-pro caliber Qb's in other leagues, MFN wide, that are now having issues in 4.5 The things that I have noticed are, the attributes being viewed for a QB need to be adapted to the new code. What did work, no longer does. Wr's receiving attributes are important also in determining receptions, not just speed. In addition even though sacks are down, pressure plays more of an importance now. If a qb is under constant pressure he is prone to throw more incomplete passes and interceptions, no matter what the QB's numbers are. The interesting part is the QB's attributes dictate when the QB makes the determination of what pressure is, it varies based on the QB. The QB is important, but the total team offense now plays a more important role. This is at least my take on it.

Salty doesn't have a single RB, FB or TE on his roster. I think there needs to be a bigger penalty for playing guys out of position. In this case, any DE lining up against a 200 WR playing TE ought to be able roll him **** near every time and pressure the QB. Apparently that isn't happening. Unless he's not running any plays that actually use a TE...

If by penalty you mean in the code then yes but it’s been going on forever. Nothing more annoying then seeing a WR play TE or RB and kill it.

As far as the QB situation, it’s our opinion that it’s really a **** shoot as to how they are going to play. Experience and finding few plays that are successful. For example, I only know my team so Walker started the year like ****. Two separate 4 INT games. Since week 4 (maybe it’s the weaker schedule) but he has been lights out. Is it the change in offensive plays and philosophy? Playing weaker teams? Or good old luck? Play familiarity and experience? I have no idea and that’s the frustration.