GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN!
We have a lot to discuss in the coming days. I hope that we can all come to an understanding.

I'm no fool Not every one will be happy. The goal is to come to an understanding we all can live with.

The #1 issue is trading. Specifically trading attached to top draft picks. As I promised yesterday I have out lined a number of possible scenarios that we can explore. I have put a lot of thought and PERSONAL time into trying to make things work. It's my hope that we will find some common ground and work I out. B4 I get into the trade issue I'd like to mention that if I don't hear from the Tampa bay GM by Friday he will be removed and I already have another to take the team. On a similar note Cutzie is leaving the game after the draft and I will be filling that void with another experienced GM.

Down to business. Don't get our shorts in a bunch and quit thes are just ideas right now.

As it stands right now
2 trades between teams per season
Must have 1 #1 pick at ALL TIMES.
30 (RL) days for any GM with less than 1 year in MFN. This will be a moot point as we are now private and will NOT take Rookies to MFN.
The trade meter is ON. It will remain on until we are all satisfied that no shenanigans are going on with like IP addresses.

My first impression is that trades involving high draft picks seem to be our largest issue.

We could:
Limit the amount of draft picks per round say 3 in any round ? Max 15 in any year? Less? More?

Invoke a rule that ALL trades involving draft picks 1-2-3 ? be reviewed before the trade is official. Meaning you would have to submit your trade to the league leadership before it is made OR a hold will be placed on such trades for 24-48 hrs until reviewed. Additionally, there would be NO TRADING of draft picks before/after the start/end of the draft day. (round 1-32 and so on).

I have other suggestions but they will have to wait until I get some sleep. Honestly I had a very rough and disappointing day yesterday. I have enlisted some advise from other league owners I need to put this away for now. I have had it stuck in my head since 7:30 am yesterday. I will continue this in the morning. Thanks ….........................................MM

I can agree with 3 picks per round, especially with the first 3 rounds being the heaviest dead cap accumulation which is why I preferred trading most my picks to gain some veterans AND didn't risk too much on the volatility in the first round (maybe 1 or 2 players about 50). That was something I didn't think about until I read something on the forums prior to the draft and realized, "oh nuts I messed up." So, I've been trying to fix the amount of picks that I have, so I'm still pretty open to trades especially for veteran players. Got to make this roster into a championship team after all.

Being unable to review any trade on draft day because the selection was already made could be an issue in the future. My problem with a rule about "NO TRADING of draft picks before/after the start/end of the draft day" is that, from my experience, everytime I traded down from any round, I waited until I was on the clock. I don't know which prospect are going to fall to my pick until I'm on the clock. Adding a rule that we can't trade during the draft day would limit the fun IMO.

I'm not a fan of limiting how many draft pick you can have in any round neither.

Copied from Trade Strategy thread ............

Meat has posted about the trading problem with regard to high first and second round picks in the sticky thread for the league.

I'd would just like to add that its not a real good idea, especially for a team that has not made the playoffs the previous season or more, to trade their 1st and 2nd round picks to teams that have dominated the league for the past several seasons, no need to name names.

One of the primary reasons that teams are able to dominate a league is that they continue to get more than their fare share of 1st and 2nd round picks. Its not the only reason, roster is 50-60% of the game IMHO, but it makes it real hard to compete with them, with all other aspects of the game being equal, if teams continue to trade their best picks to them.

If you get a trade proposal from a "dominant" team, why dont you shop first, or look for a better trade with a "non dominant" team. You may or may not find a better trade, but please keep that consideration in mind. Unless you really dont mind helping to improve an already dominant team.

Not only picks, but players also. The owners who consistently win in this game have good "weights". I can give you several examples of trades over the last few seasons to a dominant owner/team in this league where the Ai rating was in the 60s but my weights have the player(s) in the 80s. So, just a heads up, the trade meter values and Ai ratings are way off on a lot of players, especially those positions where speed is a critical factor, RB/WR/TE/FB, and all defense positions. Look at the league player stats if you think Im wrong. The sack leader last season, had 21 sacks & 32 hurries. RDE Oscar May/Raiders, the next best # of sacks were 15 by SLB Hamlin/Detroit. Mays Ai default rating is 46. The 3rd leading receiver last season, Gerald/Colts, by yardage, is Ai rated 72, my weights have him at 85. The #5 in receiving yards, Ochoa/Rams, is Ai rated at 64 with a trade meter value of a very low 40. My weights have him at 81. What is his strongest attribute? 95 speed. What are his receiving skills? other than 62 route, all are 51 and lower.

Do you understand what Im trying to pass on here? Hopefully, if not already, you will be more aware when getting or making proposals involving dominant owners/teams. If you need to improve your weights, which are super important when it comes to player evaluation, pm me.

Here's a real good example of the type of trade, a recent one, that takes advantage of 1. different and better weights and 2. poor trade meter values. Would suggest you also read the comments about the trade.. ............. https://paydirt.myfootballnow.com/forums/1/1659?page=1#11313

Atlanta has traded all their picks so relax...they have 3 picks over the next 3 seasons and none in the next 2 seasons.

Sure they traded them away for vets to improve but older vets....ancient in some cases. In the majority of cases, a player reaches his peak in season 7 and after that tends the downward slope into retirement.

Atlanta has 29 downward sloping vets on their roster with no picks the next 2 seasons to replenish the ranks. So relax, I'm sure he will make the playoffs once again but his road to the title is harder now then in past seasons.

Besides, the roster is only half the equation. With the addition of Crazyrazor, Greyghost, GrandadB and myself into the Conference with Atlanta....things are about to heat up!!!

I'm actually shocked GrandadB is so intimidated by Atlanta getting picks or whatever. The GrandadB I know would gameplan the **** out of his roster and just win baby!

In fact, when I traded with Atlanta, I had no idea he had won back to back titles and honestly wouldn't have cared if I knew. The goal in this game is to improve your roster based on your weights and style of play. I did a major overhaul on my team. I have just 14 players left from last season. My goal is to go from 1-15 and the #1 overall pick to Champions.

So let's play some FOOTBALL!!!!

Woow, really.....not sure about this statement but i kind like the fact that Falcons has become so famous and popular in the Forum .... Falcons this, Falcons that ... i love this season:))

So he posted in at least 3 different threads because I made a trade with you and gave you a 4th round and 2nd round pick....he went on and on about how can you give this great team (you) high picks....they will be 3 time Champs now!!!

All because his weights differ from mine when it comes to DT. I know what I want and how to use it. I could care less if you went 0-16 or won the Title. This improves my team now and for many seasons to come.

I traded for a rookie I have rated 80 who boomed to the total of +14/+14 by my weights and will play Nose tackle on my defense for the next 10-12 years. It was worth a 2nd and a 4th to me.

I get some owners make bad trades and mostly it's because their player weights are jacked and they don't value speed at key positions.

I guess GrandadB has made you famous because if he didn't post all that stuff...I never would have known you won it all last season.

If you have a beef with a trade Challenge it, If you just want to opine, do so. I have said that I welcome and value all of your input. We need to respect each other, not everyone plays the same strategy, has the same weights, or has the same motivation. This is not a training league (per beercloud). EVERYONE is free to trade and Gameplan as they see fit as long as You are not breaking the rules. I have known marinarul since he joined Pay dirt and he is a stand up guy. He turned the never win falcons around and had a 14-2 season with like 27 minimum salary players and a huge dead cap. EWhat he also did was dig into teh forums and pick the brains of the best players, he asked questions and learned from his mistakes. I would never beieve that he is being fed players or engageing in any shenanigans. Fight if you must but fight nice.lol. OIpinons differ, share yours, please don't take shots at each other. IF you feel the trade is that bad, uneven, or just plain stupid CHALLENGE IT! Contact your Confrence Rep. the haed of ops or Myself Within 24 hrs. If a trade involves a GM o he competition commitee they will sit out and one of the other league admins or an outside GM will take his place.

I did post about trades being an issue. I had also thought that we had moved past said issue. There ae 32 strong Type A personalities in his league. A lot of very knowlegable GM's too. Play YOUR game and please don't force it on anyone. YES, by all means, share you knowledge and opinions, do it respectfully.

Quite honestly, I am very close to offering someone else the admin job IDK how becloud and jcruz did it for so long 1+ season and I just don't get it. Have a graet season. PM me if you ned assitance. I will not be i the forums.................................................................................:( MM.

LOL, ok CJ, Mr Know it All. Im not intimidated by the Falcons, Im disgusted at the lack of concern by several owners in recent trades to a team that has proven very dominant. I dont blame Marinarul for doing so either, its not a slam against him, he's also one of many owners that Ive passed on my experience to, and it shows. You dont have to be a genius in this game to A. recognize a dominant team, in this case Atlanta, who has won 2 straight LCs, and 3 out of the last 4. B. avoid trading 1 and 2 round picks and/or players that have much higher rating than the Ai. to that team. Sorry you got all ****-hurt about my critique on your DT trade, didnt know your skin was so thin. It wasnt about the DT, who is good, it was about another trade that improves a team the rest of the league is obviously trying to catch up and compete with. All Im going to state about it. Not going to harp on it any more, just trying to make owners more aware about trading strategy in a league that has had dominant playoff teams the past several seasons.

My point GrandadB was I had no idea I was trading with the 2 time league Champ...I just joined this league and took over a 1-15 team.

I traded a 2nd rounded for him because it improved my team...He is a rookie and hasn't even come close to his potential and he had 2 tackles, 2 sacks and 1 hurry in game 1 as DT1 and I've already matched my teams win total from last season.

My goal is to improve team and win now. I understand you are upset about some of the trades with Atlanta....I actively commented on one here:

https://paydirt.myfootballnow.com/forums/1/1659?page=1#11326

Maybe my trade added to Atlanta's dominance but by my trade the damage was already done. Atlanta has traded away all its picks for a win now approach and God bless him. I don't have to play him until the playoffs so I will cross that bridge when it comes.

You know just as well as I do that the roster is only half the battle and this Conference is stacked with quality gameplanners.

Until some owners get away from the default weights and value speed, you are barking up the wrong tree...I said the same things in comments above about that trade.

We have different weights when it comes to DT but that doesn't make me right or you wrong...just different.