A colluding CC:
This was yet another trade review that was requested by a completely different GM than all the others. There's a pattern here but its not a colluding one. If the CC was ever out of line they know Id be all over em. If I was getting a review request from the same GM or same few GM's all the time I'd question them on it for sure. I have yet to run across that since we opened our doors going on 13 seasons ago.

I keep saying this and I'll say it again. The CC is working exactly as it was intended when we set it up. This trade is no different. jgcruz, Mcarovil and Meatmen have great integrity. I have 0 concern with whatever decisions they make.

I've never asked for a review but I would if others hadn't already. I don't personally care one bit if any GM is being black listed. I will say it doesn't seem right if GM's are literally DM'ing each other about it, but just by pointing out the behavior it would seem a lot of GM's are adults and don't need to converse with each other to understand the simple concept of sportsmanship and the people are who are ruining it. It kinda makes me sick anyone traded with him.

I have 11 trade offers and 7 are from joumeng.. not one makes sense for me in the slightest.. send out 200 offers and 4-5 will accept

I never accused anyone of colluding, just what I've personally felt like this off season. Can you disagree? Has there ever been a team in league history that's had trade after trade reviewed? Has there even been this many reviews in an entire season? All coming after a forum that some GM's spoke out about their distaste of how I build my team? Even you, Meatmen, PMing NYG about the trade despite his clear resilience towards completing the deal. Shouldn't it have been obvious that it wasn't me trying to "pull the wool over his eyes" and trying to rip him off? Only to have the deal constantly being asked for review? It's been frustrating.

This is the first time I've spoken out on it simply because at this point I've felt like it's gotten out of hand as there hasn't been a season in which so many reviews were called for. It's honestly blurred my understanding of what reviews are supposed to be called for... Completely lopsided trades? Trades that lean towards one team over the other? I understand there have been some slightly lopsided trades, but in my opinion there hasn't been any that ruins franchises for years.

Like I said, I respect the process of the trade committee and the owners that are in that position. There's just been an unprecedented amount of reviews called for and a majority of those being trades that involve my team. It's frustrating and I believe any team/owner in my position would agree.

i dont always agree with many of the offers i get from jouameng but at the end of the day cutting someone out just because you dont like the offers isnt any better there are 2 sides in a trade offer we all have the option to decline a trade but if people are sincerely going to challenge any trade just because of whos involved thats where things start to draw a line in the sand and thats where i see his frustration coming from.

I'm pretty sure its not the receiving of the offers that has people concerned, like you said you can just decline. It's that over the 13 seasons, I imagine a good number of people have traded with him, only to realize later how much value they lost. Its a bad spot cause really you can't say much about it, it was a bad trade for you right? But then you see that same person making 20% of the trades in the offseason with an all pro team and 10 first round picks and for me, it's easy to see how people might go a little vigilante.. Nobody outspoken is backing them up right?

It's like a mechanic that over charges people. He has to know that in the beginning it's gonna be easy.. but over time people will start to catch on, and start going somewhere else.. more than that they start to have a very bad opinion of that mechanic.. naturally we don't want others we know to over pay the mechanic, so we warn them, right?

Everyone does understand that my out of my 8 1st round picks, 6 of them was from pick 19 and later right? Sure, it doesn't make any difference because a 1st rounder is a 1st rounder. The main point I'm making is that 5 of those were acquired from owners that did well throughout the season, which in turn hopefully means they know what they're doing. Those picks were 1.19(New York Giants at 8-8 owned by Mitch4742), 1.24(Green Bay Packers at 11-5 owned by GrandadB), 1.25(San Diego Chargers at 10-6 owned by jgcruz), 1.27(Seattle Seahawks at 13-3 owned by, at the time, awest827), and 1.31(Buffalo Bills at 13-3 owned by $B$Dog$). All those picks came from what I consider to be just some of the outstanding owners in this league. I find it hard to believe that they would all make deals with me in which they would "realize later how much value they lost".

Even with the early draft picks, 1.1 and 1.2, I didn't target their teams last year to acquire these picks. I acquired those picks back in the 1980 season, no way in knowing those franchises would've ended up with the top picks in the draft. I'm also absolutely sure if you cared enough, you could go to the Paydirt Football League website to find out that I've traded multiple times with multiple teams throughout the past 13 seasons.

Like I said in greyghosts' Game Guide for trading over in Paydirt B, my philosophy is to always seek value in trades, including coming out on top in the trades. That doesn't mean I don't want the other team to be able to profit from the trade either and most importantly I would never intentionally make a trade knowing that it'd destroy the infrastructure of the team's current or future condition.

You complained about the 7 trade offers I sent you. 5 of them were sent in error, of which I withdrew each one. The other 2 involved CB Rayford Ho. Looking at your team I felt that you were close to .500 and I felt that a CB, as old as he is, of his caliber, could push you into contention for your division. I also sent offers to field him to other teams, such as Dallas, Cincinnati, Denver, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, and San Diego. Common denominator? They're all, in my opinion, in win-now mode. Sure I'm throwing out 200 offers, but I try to offer players that could help improve their franchise. Don't like the price? There's always the reject and counter option. Don't like it at all? There's the reject button. Don't care to trade? Just tell me that and you won't receive another offer from me. Duval told me he didn't care to trade, so I let him be. It's really as easy as that.

Your last comment definitely has me curious though, "naturally we don't want others we know to over pay the mechanic, so we warn them. Right?"

Does that mean some owners are warning other owners not to trade with me? Interesting.

Anyways, in the words of someone, I greatly respect, "It's a game."

You keep trying to defend yourself with this "players I traded with have done well".. um you know 12 teams make the playoffs every season right? You can play however you want, but reputation is a real thing and all I'm hearing from you in this post and your DM is you crying about how others perceive you now. You did that to yourself. It's your actions that brought this out. You keep bringing up my secondary which is bad, but why would I trade you my star WLB plus my 1st round pick for your old star DB. You keep talking at me like I'm a bad player because I don't accept your trades... its what you've been doing for 13 seasons obviously. Like a snake in the grass.

And about the last comment I will flatly say it for you..

Everyone should be extremely hesitant to trade with Jouameng. He will intentionally look to rip you off and then try to guilt/shame you into accepting trades when you decline them.

I don't know how to be anymore clear. I know of absolutely zero people who are talking about you behind your back.. there is no need to.. I just said it.

I haven't gotten ripped off by him yet. I don't trade him as often, but when I do, I feel like I get value out of it.

It's supposed to feel that way.