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2007 GG Thread

By MVRowner - League Admin
11/30/2024 6:25 pm
The 2007 regular season is upon us. Who would have thought that the Paydirt Football League, through the highest and lowest times, is still here entering its 37 season. The full ownership certainly would not have been possible without you guys, and I want to shoutout Action-Jackson, GrandadB, setherick, and TheWitchHunter for the advice and conversations. And shoutout to everyone else who has joined this league, without you guys, this league would not be around, so thank you. With that, I believe there are some storylines to cover heading into the regular season, so let’s get into it.

1. The first 3-peat championship since the 1988-1991 Atlanta Falcons could happen. Setherick has taken control of the AFC after defeating MVR’s Miami Dolphins and AJ’s New England Patriots in the AFC Championship games. The AFC still has the original juggernauts in the Miami Dolphins and Cleveland Browns, but now the New England Patriots are in the mix for the 4 horsemen of the AFC. But until proven wrong, Baltimore rules the AFC with an iron fist.

2. Is this the year the AFC East crown is transferred. After sweeping the Patriots in the regular season, the Miami Dolphins were eliminated by the New England Patriots in the AFC Divisional round. Could this be the signal that the AFC East’s changing of the guard is happening? The rise of the galactic empire? Time will tell…

3. The rushing attack has been on a steady decline in the Paydirt Football League. Does this trajectory continue for the 2007 season? Only 10 RBs were selected with the first 100 picks of this year’s draft. The highest rated so far being New England Patriots’ Nicholas Browns, selected with the 29th pick. Preseason stats are difficult to track, but there is a possibility that the run game increases this year. Indianapolis’s Stephen Hinton averaged 8.1 yard per carry, Nicholas Brown averaged 6.7 yards per carry, and Kermit Kimball averaged 5.5 yards per carry. However, with that, you have the Chris Ramos (49ers) who averaged 3.7 yards a carry on 54 attempts. Preseason is very difficult to keep up with stats accurately, but owners should keep their eyes open on a way to utilize that ground game effectively this season.

4. The NFC North appears to have plenty of competition. All 4 teams look like playoff contenders in that division. Could this mean that all 4 teams make the playoffs this year, unlikely due to many other good teams in the NFC, but look at that division to have some exciting competition for the division crown.

5. This offseason, five owners have joined the Paydirt Football League. War eagle, vicmafraigar, Thunderbolt, ThanhMan, and BlackCat are all looking forward to throw their names into the competitive league. Good luck to all!

6. Who is winning the tank bowl this season? The New York Jets appear to be the front-runners, selling their entire roster only to be somehow even worse than the previous year. Their QB, a project player who needs a few years of development, not being thrusted into the starting lineup and expected to produce right off the bat. Their only chance is utilizing the RB core and prove to all of Paydirt that the run game isn’t declining.

That’s all the storylines I have as of now. Been an extremely busy Thanksgiving break, apologies for the delay. Now, good luck and Godspeed everyone! 2007 season, here we come!

Re: 2007 GG Thread

By MVRowner - League Admin
11/30/2024 6:26 pm
GG Bears, not the start of the season I was looking for but at least there’s a lot to learn and grow from that game. Improve the team and gameplay early on. Good luck the rest of the season!

Re: 2007 GG Thread

By TheWitchHunter
11/30/2024 11:34 pm
Thx. diversify your D plays. 8 is not enough ;).
Either you got the team to run the plays or you don't.
It's unfortunate that so many Gms are running so few plays because Setherick said so.

Re: 2007 GG Thread

By trslick
12/01/2024 10:05 am
GG JWC

Re: 2007 GG Thread

By Pittball1
12/02/2024 10:40 am
GG Seattle/jmvda

Re: 2007 GG Thread

By setherick
12/02/2024 5:10 pm
TheWitchHunter wrote:
Thx. diversify your D plays. 8 is not enough ;).
Either you got the team to run the plays or you don't.
It's unfortunate that so many Gms are running so few plays because Setherick said so.


I have always said that there are few plays that work and most only work against some defenses. I never said only run 8 plays that kind of work against most defenses. I typically have 20-25 selected per game when I plan on running 60-75 plays.

Re: 2007 GG Thread

By TheWitchHunter
12/03/2024 12:29 am
And yet most folks do so, and it's based on your data.
Grain of salt: no one else provides so much raw data.
If you are the only guy in the room, you're the only guy held responsible.
Knowledge is a double edged sword.
Sharing such knowledge is a vulnerability requiring one to be self-less.
Willing to share at the cost of sacrificing victory.
Seth: the information you share, the data you acquire is of great value.
Your attitude of sharing such information in order to show the defects of the game makes your results counter intuitive to the overall community morale.
I can't live with ya, but i don't want to live without ya.
It's exhausting to see so much information being written in such a negative way. You present data in ways that highlight the negative, instead of being positive.
This plays sucks so just do this.
It's always this sucks so my data says do this so one should do this or you're gonna lose because i just showed you how much things s. u. c. k.
Most folks don't want to lose.

I can accept you are a victim of the data you get, and what you get is what you present.
I also figure you focus more on what does not work instead of what does,
It becomes a cycle of hopelessness.
Especially when coming from someone with your influence on all of us.

As valuable as all your data is, the presentation of all of you data always highlights the negatives.
All your posts are this sucks and heres the data and the data proves how much this sucks.

Frankly, your talents are worth far more than pointing out what sucks.
We know what sucks.
Show me some data that shows what works.
What works in MFN is going to be much more valuable to JDB in finding a fix for what does not.

Being able to have both the knowledge and the willingness to share it shows actual strength.
I'm so grateful you share your findings, but I really wish youd find a way to share them that works with JDB and does not move the community against JDB.

You got all the evidence about why something sucks, but you never provide evidence as to why something does not.

I enjoy our back and forth. Important topics require tough dialogue.
You're valuable.

I believe you've caused great harm because you always use your data to tear down the game, comment on the negatives. It's never what works, but how to use what is broken.


All you got to do is change the tone of your conversations and your presentations.

Just as I need to. I've caused my own harm with my own digressions, but I never did a full write up with a database to prove how every one else is wrong.
All of your data work has been about proving people wrong.

With great intellect comes great burdens, and those with often use such intellect to prove they are right.
At that point being being right become righteous, and that's where everything goes wrong.
"By golly ima show you with all these facts how right i am" is righteousness.

I can say such things because i do such things.
The difference is I know i do such things.
You do not.

Same basket, different eggs, senor seth. We fight hardest with those most like us.

To paraphrase:
We know the pieces fit.
"schism" - TOOL



Last edited at 12/03/2024 1:23 am

Re: 2007 GG Thread

By setherick
12/03/2024 12:39 am
TheWitchHunter wrote:
Frankly, your talents are worth far more than pointing out what sucks.
We know what sucks.


I'm not going to belabor this more that point out what you're saying is completely against posts like these: https://paydirt.myfootballnow.com/community/3/7509?page=1

What really works is a game plan that most players are not going to have the patience for though. It's one that focus on a number of short sustained passing plays to control the clock (like a good running game) and have a possibility of opening up a big play downfield.

For most people, it's boring. For the people it's not boring for, they have largely figured it out.

Re: 2007 GG Thread

By setherick
12/03/2024 1:11 am
But since I haven't posted any data recently outside of the league I took over for Gus, here's a new spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SYAEjhGy4NieqnqqmMEfyF-mPzfjGGqD/view?usp=sharing

These are plays where:
* the primary target averages over 4.5 yards per catch
* the completion rate to the primary target is over 60%
* the overall clean % rate for the passing play is over 80% (20% of the time the play will be sacked or pressured)

I have included the overall completion rate, the overall adjusted net yards per attempt and the overall TD/INT ratio.

There are 48 short and medium passing plays here. Players still have to figure out how to use them effectively.

EDIT: Some of this data may come from leagues that have relaxed rosters rules now. I haven't cleaned it up to focus only on this league and NFL that still use roster rules.
Last edited at 12/03/2024 1:12 am

Re: 2007 GG Thread

By TheWitchHunter
12/03/2024 1:32 am
putting up a defense means i hit the truth, dead center.
I don't know how much more i could prop someone's egos while offering criticism, but apparently all that effort was a waste.
Nothing changes unless something changes.
Last edited at 12/03/2024 1:36 am