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Re: Rules Debate

By jgcruz
4/28/2020 1:08 am
CrazyRazor wrote:
jgcruz wrote:
I have posted the following on the Rules Proposals thread:
Following is the protocol for passing's rules. However, due to the potential adverse impact of certain tactics that tend to skew the real world realism that the game seeks to project, I am proposing to suspend Rules D) and E) which deal with the time frame during which a proposal may be adopted.

"A) Make a proposal

B) After a proposal gets a second and a third from different GM's it will go up for all league GM's to vote on it.

C) One GM one vote, majority rules.

D) Proposals are accepted after Pre-Season game 1 and before Week 15 of the regular season.

E) Voting will take place from Wild Card weekend til the off-week right before the Super Bowl.

F) This thread is for rule proposals and second and thirds only. (No debating or discussions)

G) Debating will be done in the Rules Debate thread to keep this thread clean.

F) Proposals will be up for vote for 7 calender days before being closed."

If suspension of the D) and E) is approved by a majority of voting GMs, the rule which I am proposing is as follows:

A GM shall NOT insert a player into a position on the depth chart (including overrides) during the regular season which deviates from the following:

1. RB may include only players whose primary position is RB, FB, TE or WR.

2. FB may include only players whose primary position is RB, FB or TE.

3. TE may include only players whose primary position is FB, TE, WR or an offensive lineman.

4. WR may include only players whose primary position is RB, FB, TE or WR.

5. Offensive line players may only include players whose primary position is offensive lineman or TE.

6. Defensive line players may only include players whose primary position is defensive lineman or LB.

7. LB may only include players whose primary position is LB or S.

8. S may only include players whose primary position is S, CB or LB.

9. CB may only include players whose primary position is CB or S.

Any deviation from this rule, as determined by a majority of GMs who vote, shall result in the immediate removal of the offending GM from the Paydirt Football League and blocked from rejoining the league for not less than 30 days thereafter."

Questions and comments are welcome.


This includes Special Teams line ups?


Not specifically. If there is a consensus that there should be, we’ll add one more rule specifically covering it. I’ll suggest one tomorrow for consideration.

The suggestion above is intended to eliminate having players inserted into lineups having no bearing to reality, e.g., having a DB play on the defensive line.

Re: Rules Debate

By CrazyRazor
4/28/2020 1:08 pm
jgcruz wrote:
Not specifically. If there is a consensus that there should be, we’ll add one more rule specifically covering it. I’ll suggest one tomorrow for consideration.

The suggestion above is intended to eliminate having players inserted into lineups having no bearing to reality, e.g., having a DB play on the defensive line.


This last part: Special Teams is mainly where GM's are putting DB's on the defensive line.
I'm okay with this as a whole. As long as we stress that this includes Special Teams libe ups.

Re: Rules Debate

By CCSAHARA
4/28/2020 4:36 pm
I don't mind getting my **** kicked. I just hope it is being kicked fairly or due to MY ignorance. It's like golf, only YOU know if the ball moved.

Re: Rules Debate

By awest827
4/28/2020 5:22 pm
CrazyRazor wrote:
jgcruz wrote:
Not specifically. If there is a consensus that there should be, we’ll add one more rule specifically covering it. I’ll suggest one tomorrow for consideration.

The suggestion above is intended to eliminate having players inserted into lineups having no bearing to reality, e.g., having a DB play on the defensive line.


This last part: Special Teams is mainly where GM's are putting DB's on the defensive line.
I'm okay with this as a whole. As long as we stress that this includes Special Teams libe ups.



I feel like putting restrictions on special teams is the complete oposite of reality. I don't think I've ever seen a football team say we're going to completly give up on blocking a punt we're going to put the big defensive lineman in there who have no chance of blocking the punt. Maybe it's just me but that logic doesn't make any sense. Punt blocks are a part of football so why try to remove it here. That's my thought on it but I'm sure a lot of you will disagree.

Re: Rules Debate

By jgcruz
4/28/2020 5:37 pm
I’ve had only one punt blocked ever and have never blocked one. So I can’t say that we NEED to have a rule specifically for this situation. Let’s see what others have to say. Thanks.

Re: Rules Debate

By CrazyRazor
4/28/2020 8:29 pm
awest827 wrote:
CrazyRazor wrote:
jgcruz wrote:
Not specifically. If there is a consensus that there should be, we’ll add one more rule specifically covering it. I’ll suggest one tomorrow for consideration.

The suggestion above is intended to eliminate having players inserted into lineups having no bearing to reality, e.g., having a DB play on the defensive line.


This last part: Special Teams is mainly where GM's are putting DB's on the defensive line.
I'm okay with this as a whole. As long as we stress that this includes Special Teams libe ups.



I feel like putting restrictions on special teams is the complete oposite of reality. I don't think I've ever seen a football team say we're going to completly give up on blocking a punt we're going to put the big defensive lineman in there who have no chance of blocking the punt. Maybe it's just me but that logic doesn't make any sense. Punt blocks are a part of football so why try to remove it here. That's my thought on it but I'm sure a lot of you will disagree.


Are you really trying to argue that NFL teams put DB's & WR's on the front four to block punts??!! That's absurd!!

Re: Rules Debate

By CrazyRazor
4/28/2020 8:30 pm
jgcruz wrote:
I’ve had only one punt blocked ever and have never blocked one. So I can’t say that we NEED to have a rule specifically for this situation. Let’s see what others have to say. Thanks.


I'm simply trying to keep them off the front four of punt blocks. In essence, your rule already covers that. I just wanted it made clear to all.
Last edited at 4/28/2020 8:31 pm

Re: Rules Debate

By Mcarovil
4/29/2020 8:38 am
MFN isn’t reality. If you lined up DBs on the DL in reality they would most certainly get pancaked. Not to mention the offense would be able to adjust with an audible. We aren’t playing in reality, its a game that can be exploited for unfair advantages, and by unfair I mean its not a league wide know exploit. If a GM wants to find a loophole, then everyone should know about it and not realize it when they watch a game and see them getting 6 punts blocked.
awest827 wrote:
CrazyRazor wrote:
jgcruz wrote:
Not specifically. If there is a consensus that there should be, we’ll add one more rule specifically covering it. I’ll suggest one tomorrow for consideration.

The suggestion above is intended to eliminate having players inserted into lineups having no bearing to reality, e.g., having a DB play on the defensive line.


This last part: Special Teams is mainly where GM's are putting DB's on the defensive line.
I'm okay with this as a whole. As long as we stress that this includes Special Teams libe ups.



I feel like putting restrictions on special teams is the complete oposite of reality. I don't think I've ever seen a football team say we're going to completly give up on blocking a punt we're going to put the big defensive lineman in there who have no chance of blocking the punt. Maybe it's just me but that logic doesn't make any sense. Punt blocks are a part of football so why try to remove it here. That's my thought on it but I'm sure a lot of you will disagree.
Last edited at 4/29/2020 8:38 am

Re: Rules Debate

By arscola
4/29/2020 9:03 am
Just for the record I'm fully against all these new proposed rule changes. They go WAY overboard and will take away from the game and become impossible to police. I will say this though, we do need to ensure that nobody employs DB's or WR's at the ST Rusher position as this will lead to punt blocks. At first I didn't believe this to be true but after getting a few blocked from Smirt who had a 98 speed CB lining up there I now know that this can be done on a consistent basis. No offense to Smirt as he is one of the best GM's in all of MFN but this just isn't fair to the new/average players.

But back to the point, I will vote NO to the current 10 Point proposal as this will become both impossible to police and also very difficult for players to follow.

Re: Rules Debate

By Smirt211
4/29/2020 9:08 am
Believe it's been at least 2 weeks, if not more, where I've completed reverted all my Punt Return screens through all leagues to a 100% pass blocking format.

Punt Blocking should be out-lawed.

This 10-point system - I vote emphatically NO.